Daughter refuses to hold off on marriage to abusive fiancé / Daughter's desperate communication to her mother

Dear Annie: Six weeks ago, I discovered my daughter's fiancé has been abusing her. He was also the one who insisted "Anna" take a job as an exotic dancer. I realize this is the pattern of many abusers to lower the self-esteem of the woman and also to blackmail her if she tries to leave. They plan to marry in one month.

Anna is 22 and can marry this beast if she chooses. But I told her I do not approve of this marriage and under no circumstances would I pay for the wedding, even though I paid the deposit on many services.

I begged Anna to postpone the ceremony and get some counseling before taking such a permanent step. She has refused to back away from this man and denies there is any problem. She has arranged to be married by a justice of the peace.

It breaks my heart not to be part of my daughter's wedding, but I cannot celebrate this occasion knowing her future husband does not treat her with respect or honor. The professionals I have spoken with say the violence escalates after marriage and then increases again after the children are born. Am I doing the right thing to stand my ground and not attend the wedding? I don't want to lose her forever. How can I help my daughter end the abuse? —A MAMA IN A MESS

Annie's Reply:

Dear Mama: Please go to the wedding, no matter how much it breaks your heart. Your daughter is aware that you don't approve. Now she needs to know she can count on you, no matter what.

Anna's situation is quite dire, but she is the only one who can get her out of it. Let her know you love her and she can come to you if she ever needs help. Give her the number of the National Domestic Violence Hotline at (800) 799-7233 (ndvh.org since changed to https://www.thehotline.org/) and tell her to keep it handy. We'll be praying for her. —Annie

Gabby's Reply:

Hi Mama: I agree with you. I would not submit myself to the invalidating psychic and non-verbal abuse that you would experience at the wedding. To attend would be inconsistent with your advice to her; to not interact with, relate with, people addicted to abuse.

Your boycott communication (what you'll accept and not accept) is OK but a bit late. Children approaching puberty need to hear from their parents:

"There are some games I will not play with you ages 10 through 18 —drugs, alcohol, & pregnancy. After age 18 I won't play the spousal cheating*, physical abuse, drugs,  alcoholism and addiction problems, illegal activities, and prison-visits. For you to dump those kinds of problems in my space communicates to me that you don't value/want my support anymore; to do so will free me of any responsibility for you. There will be no exceptions or second chances. Is this clear?"

Now Mama, here's the shocker. It is you who are addicted to abuse, to abusing and to being abused, evidenced by the abuse you cause your daughter to inflict on you. Yours is an insidious kind of abuse because you look to be the innocent party. Most readers here have already tagged you as the victim instead of the leader of the pack. You were so unaware of the abuse you were causing between you and your daughter (the breakdown in communication) that she had to go outside the family and engage a professional abuser (her fiancé) to get you to see it.

There are two lies in your post: One comes from a lack of clarity about responsibility. You write: "I discovered my daughter's fiancé has been abusing her." This point of view is both sexist and biased. It invalidates your daughter's power, your daughter's cause in the matter. Notice that she has manipulated you (mostly non-verbally) such that you have taken her side, as though he is cause for the results she produces with her leadership-communication skills, especially her enabling and goading skills. A responsible, unbiased, sentence would be, "I discovered my daughter and her fiancé are communicating abusively with each other." Part of why you see it from your perspective is that you did not learn, and therefore could not teach her, to immediately extract herself the second she experiences abuse in the space; specifically, abuse that isn't acknowledged as abuse.  For her to not have insisted that he verbally acknowledge an abusive communication of his as being abusive, is proof positive that she is unconsciously intending it. If she engages, replies, or rewards with her presence, an abusive statement from him then, thereafter, she is intending it.** Those who intend an abuse-free life do not hang around those who need therapy. When abuse does take place, each and every abusive communication must be acknowledged (as abusive) and completed through to the satisfaction of all concerned, before the next sentence/topic/interaction. All persistent abuse in a relationship can be traced back to the first incident that was not acknowledged and completed this way—there are no exceptions to this entanglement phenomena.

The other lie: ". . . this beast . . ." This is called badmouthing. He is not a beast; he is simply dragging around a life-time of incompletes, unresolved angry interactions; he's as damaged as you and your daughter. If there be beast-like behavior here—who trash-talks another behind their back and who trained their daughter to invalidate, to abuse, her mother?

Re: "The professionals I have spoken with . . ." Notice that you cleverly (unconsciously) chose "professionals" who didn't effectively support you in addressing the source of the abuse. Amongst educators it's a standing joke that children of most therapists need therapy. Few therapists seek coaching. I.e. "What am I doing that's causing my child to misbehave, to fail in school, to do their homework, chores etc.?" Most therapists honestly believe they are in-communication with their own children, yet the majority of mental health professionals teach their own children to deceive them—evidenced by the fact that their teens con each other into deceiving both sets of parents so as to have sex behind the backs of everyone. I.e. Afraid to tell the truth. Read  Columbine parent.

Children who have been raised with nurturing love are absolutely driven to please their parents, to make them happy and proud (they virtually have no choice other than to attract a partner that will compliment the family's ideals—so powerful is nurturing love). They do whatever it takes to please, to include choosing and marrying someone both parents like. Most importantly, they live with an intention to honor their parents—meaning, to be healthy, happy, and prosperous, as a reflection of the success of their parent's parenting. As you can see, your daughter is intent on thwarting and invalidating you and all that you did to raise her; so much so that she will do whatever it takes, even submit herself to beatings, just to wake you up, to teach you a lesson. She knows, with absolute certainty, that anyone who witnesses their abuse will automatically have unpleasant thoughts about you and what you must have done to train her to be addicted to abusing and to being abused.

I'm not understanding something. Your letter suggests that you have not met him. A responsible parent insists upon meeting each new date. I.e. Have him/her over for dinner so as to support the relationship appropriately (support it in working or support him/her in completing it).  I mention this because it's obvious that you have accumulated withholds in your relationship with him. You haven't verbally shared certain specific thoughts of him with him, instead, you have been badmouthing him to her behind his back. This is both abusive and unethical; your non-verbal and psychic communications with him are producing disastrous results.

I have two suggestions for you:

  1. Complete 25-hours of therapy. You are right to be concerned about "respect," but your mind doesn't allow you to see it is you she disrespects. Your daughter is communicating with you the only way she has left. All other attempts at communicating with you (and everyone else throughout childhood) have failed. Her behavior indicates that you have completely and absolutely invalidated her and her image of self as a worthwhile person deserving of love. She is in fact mirroring you.
     
  2. Read about responsible estrangement and then write a letter to your daughter and her fiancé such as:

"The way I have been communicating with you is not working for me. I have trained you to seek out abuse. What's happening between us reveals that I need a considerable amount of therapy. I will not be supporting or attending your wedding. I will not be interacting with you, or your fiancé, ever again until—

a) You have not been in communication with him for six-months in a row, and you have completed 25-hours of therapy (for which I will pay 50% of the cost).
or

b) You both have completed 25 fifty-minute sessions of couple's counseling. This means I am unwilling to receive any phone calls, presents, cards/letters, messages, and no hospital/prison*** visits (except for imminent death).  I need proof that the way I communicate with you inspires you to opt for zero abuse in your relationships. I know that you know that your choice (specifically your need to seek out abuse in a personal relationship) does not feel good to me, that it is in fact abusive and invalidating of me as your mother. I aim to deserve to be treated lovingly and respectfully by you."

Note: During counseling/therapy she will recall the thoughts (the incompletes) she has been withholding from you, thoughts she has been dramatizing rather than verbalizing.

Mama, if you ignore this advice I assure you that you will have the same, and worse, problem six-months from now. Worse yet, you'll start babysitting their progeny, in which case you'll be unconsciously (as you did with her) training their children to grow up to be like you and her. Choosing to not handle this from cause could lead to hospital emergency room/prison visits. You'll no longer be able to say you didn't know the effects of your present  leadership-communication skills.

An excellent start is for you to do The Clearing Process (it's free and it works). I say this because communication-skills coaching would only be of value if you were not living/interacting with either of them. I.e. Not engaging in more abusive conversations with him/her.

Thank you, Gabby

* Please read About Spouse Abuse and Wedding Guest Vow and An inconsiderate gift to give a prospective partner.

** A baby will bang its head on the crib so as to get attention; later, the child will misbehave, fail, or get sick so as to draw to someone's attention that he/she is not in-communication with anyone (that the parents have become stuck (as have you) doing their imitation of communication).

*** Always remember—when I don't visit you in prison—or baby sit your children—you did have a choice.

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