Wife wants hubby to wear lingerie / Fear is a barrier to experiental intercourse

DEAR ABBY: My husband and I recently watched a comedy that featured men cross-dressing. Ever since, I have had a burning desire to have my husband wear sexy lingerie and makeup.

There is nothing effeminate about him, but I can't get this out of my head. I bought him a lacy bra and panty set, garter belt and stockings, but I haven't had the nerve to ask him to wear them. Am I crazy?

Should I try to forget this? —BURNING DESIRE IN NAHANT, MASS.

Abby's Reply:

DEAR BURNING: Human sexuality is complicated. There are many women who help their husbands cross-dress, however it is my understanding that the initiator is usually the man. I don't think you are crazy, nor do I think you should "forget" something that you describe as a "burning desire."

What I do think you should do is have a frank discussion with your husband and find out how open-minded he is on the subject. —Abby

Gabby's Reply:

Hi Burning: ". . . crazy"? Maybe, but this topic is definitely within the bounds of normal. Yours is a great letter that will be of interest and value to many readers.  I'm excited for you. Your inquiry suggests that you are ready to take your relationship to the next level—from talking to communicating. To manifest your intention you'll be entering a realm in which all you know about sex won't apply anymore, one in which the entire experience of interacting becomes experiential intercourse—no beginnings, no ends.

"Communicating" (as opposed to talking) refers to a communication model (not taught in schools); it's a way of interacting (verbally, non-verbally, physically, and psychically) in which both parties agree to communicate responsibly, openly, honestly, and spontaneously, zero significant withholds.  It's about communicating from your experience as well as from your mind. Presently there's fear in the space between you and your husband, else you wouldn't have written. I recommend that you verbally communicate your experience of fear to him. Also, a woman who is whole and complete, one who is in-integrity, would have felt comfortable asking her parents for support first.

You and your family, and your husband, have mastered talking. Talking has a different set of agreements; specifically, presently, there's an implied agreement to withhold significant thoughts of choice from each other. It's called withholding. Withholding serves as a barrier to the experience of communication, of true intercourse.

BTW: It's impossible for just one partner to have withholds from the other; both have an equal number of thoughts they are withholding from each other (yes, both and equal), there are no exceptions to this phenomenon. When all thoughts have been shared there is an experience of being one with each other (a.k.a. love). In other words, he too has one or more thoughts he has yet to share with you verbally.

The following thoughts will facilitate the transition:

I'm concerned about your comment, ". . . but I haven't had the nerve to ask him." There are [free] clearing processes (see below) for individuals, and another one for couples, that will support you in identifying the source of, and disappearing, your fear.  Your fear consists of many considerations; underneath them is the truth. Considerations are thoughts, both conscious and unconscious, that serve as barriers to manifesting ones stated intentions. 

Here's some possible considerations:

Even the thought of thinking about talking about the subject triggers anxiety. This fear probably began during childhood, after an interaction with another, perhaps trying to talk with a parent about sex. The effects of that interaction run you to this very day.

Your concern about what he might think about you could be another consideration.

You might have vestiges of Victorian-like values and so there could be shame, etc. associated with the thought. I.e. If you had grown up together, "Blue Lagoon-like," you wouldn't have been accidentally brainwashed about clothing. "Here, try this loin cloth I just made to protect your "thingy" from getting sun burned."

Another consideration might be that several years ago he jokingly revealed a judgment about something associated with such things and your mind has stored that subtle communication in the back of your mind.

You may have heard him laugh at another's joke about . . .

Yet another consideration might be embarrassment, yours and that which you think he might experience.

Another could be that you have an unconscious fear of where it might lead to, for both you and him.

And, of course the biggie, what if he not only says NO, but with self-righteous, indignant condescension, as in, you only know that part of him he has shared verbally.

Each of these considerations, and dozens more that we haven't covered (most of which are hidden under other, as yet to be verbalized, thoughts), serve as barriers to open, honest, and spontaneous communication. In the communication mastery curriculum your never-ending-task is to keep your mind as empty as possible so as to minimize automatic knee-jerk angry reactions. It's called completing the incompletes. Eventually, topics of sex will be as easy and comfortable to discuss as meal preferences. I.e. "Let's have spaghetti tonight." or, "Let's play doctor-patient tonight." Once you have formulated the intention to share all your considerations the truth of what your fear is about will appear.

"Incompletes" mostly refers to childhood interactions that were not mutually satisfying.

Although you are always the leader and the follower in your relationship (which includes controlling/surrendering when appropriate) in this matter you are the guide. For certain he has sex related thoughts that he has been afraid to talk about.

BTW: He has exactly the same number of considerations. In truth, all we're talking about is cloth and giving and receiving pleasure, expanding upon the visual and, your loving intention to create a unique pleasurable experience.

It would be valuable to know if your family/community still has outdated morality laws (Victorian beliefs still run us to this day without us even knowing it).  A dormant fear of being caught or arrested often affects ones ability to be. Such a fear can be disappeared via verbal communication.

The next "level" (a.k.a. the communication mastery curriculum) has to do with enrolling another(s) in supporting your projects. This requires that you be clear about your intentions.

For example: If you "ask" and he says no it would reveal that you unconsciously intended for him to say no. It would also reveal that you were unconscious when you asked him, that no matter what you believed, you had no intention for him to say yes. This brings us to the subject of asking.

For you to ask anyone for anything you must first have in your mind that it be your idea that they say yes or no. In this way you create space for them to choose rather than reluctantly give in to any unconscious manipulative/pressure. Many men blow it big-time with their partner when they manipulate them into group-sex or three-somes. This is partly because they have yet to master communication. They don't know how to create space for it to be their partner's co-created idea, if ever. Also, they might know intuitively that the wife would say no if truly asked. Consequently, the partner goes along with it but with non-verbalized blaming considerations and, he/she unconsciously makes sure that it doesn't work.  In this instance, the husband was not open and honest during dating about expectations, and would later reap the karma of deceit.

For you to manifest ". . . lingerie . . ." you first have to be totally willing to let go of your "desire" FOREVER!  If you pretend to ask, if there's even a hint of disappointment or make-wrong, he'll know he has no choice. In fact, I'd return the lingerie before you ask so as not to create psychic pressure; else, it might/could communicate that you knew he could be conned;  I'm not sure how he'd feel about that. Perhaps you intuit that he will do whatever you ask and so your letter is about making yourself comfortable with the truly exciting possibilities. Once you've handled your considerations you must be willing to "get" (to be with) all of his thoughts, with no smiling or laughing or expressions of disappointment or shock. You must be a safe space for him to share his truths.

Keep in mind, if he declines your suggestion it doesn't mean he's not open-minded, perhaps he's just uncomfortable. Most men think such thoughts and are afraid to talk about them for fear of . . .

I recommend that you first do The [free] Clearing Process, then invite him to do it, and then the both of you can do The [free] Clearing Process For Couples*; the processes will reveal many thoughts you both have been hiding from each other—it will result in a squeaky-clean relationship and intercourse like never before.

Be assured, The Clearing Process supports wonderful, valuable, fun-type experiential conversations, typical and normal; some trigger uncomfortableness and embarrassment. Most importantly, the process restores and helps maintain ones experience of integrity.

BTW: Topics that are deal-breakers MUST be covered during the engagement period.** Both need to reveal their fantasies so as to find out if they are mutually supportable. Often a man hides (withholds) his fantasies during the engagement period believing he can later talk (con) his wife into swapping, or "swallowing," or bowling, or whatever; withholding thoughts results in communication breakdowns which are the beginning of the end of the spiritual growth and expansion in the relationship. The fear of telling the truth always takes its toll. 

BTW: The majority of divorces began on the first date when both (yes both) withheld a significant "deal-breaking" thought from the other, both ignorant of the effects of deceit. —Gabby

* The Clearing Process is a prerequisite for The Clearing Process for Couples. It's best that you complete The Clearing Process first before you mention the topic and before you invite him to do the process. If you're intent on mastering communication then complete all four free processes at The Clearing House before asking.

** Many men have had sex with others prior to getting married. Some partners, during oral sex, swallow ejaculate, others find it distasteful or impossibly gagging repulsive. If a man believes that oral sex is only satisfactory—that it really means something—if a partner swallows, then he will try to con his partner into "swallowing." If the con fails he will pretend it's Ok but often be disappointed—for life.  If during teen-dating a man had oral sex with someone who had mastered oral sex, then he has been "spoiled" —for life (an excellent reason both should be virgins). Extra-marital affairs for many are about searching for the illusive ecstasy, looking for, or, about recreating an earlier "Wow!" In other words, partners must verbally communicate their expectations (desires) and boundaries (unacceptable behaviors) up-front before marriage (read, Creating a marriage vow that precludes cheating, etc.).

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Gabby (mod) · May 18, 2015

I think after reading this letter some husbands living in Nahant are wondering ... and, it may have fertilized experiment seeds for other wives.

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Anonymous · May 17, 2015

Definitely ask him. I'd love my wife to ask me to wear it. :)

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