Husband's jealousy may be justified / How to cause jealousy

DEAR ABBY: My wife and I disagreed with your advice to the woman whose husband was upset about his wife going out for drinks with her male co-workers. ("Pulled in 'Two in Pennsylvania," April 2). We have been happily married for many years, and neither she nor I feel comfortable with a female employee going for drinks with mostly males.

Drinking can lower inhibitions. Many office affairs begin in similar situations. In addition, no one should be driving home after two or more drinks. Office parties or get-togethers should not be held at bars.

Employers can be held responsible for a multitude of things that can happen after these socials.

That woman's husband may be too protective or controlling, but he is not out of line to be upset about the situation. —BOB IN LEWISVILLE, TEXAS

Abby's Reply:

DEAR BOB: Thank you for your comments. I told "Pulled in Two" that her husband appears to be insecure and can change only if he's willing to own up to it. However, many readers felt differently—distinctly differently. Read on: —Abby

Here's more letters with the same concerns:

DEAR ABBY: As someone with a "jealous" husband, I beg to differ. There is a positive definition of jealousy—rightly guarding what belongs to a person. This man may be guarding the relationship he has with his wife. He may sense some danger from her "friendly" and "happily married" co-workers that she doesn't see. Although they have been married 16 years, it seems his jealousy arose only after she took this job.

I speak from experience as someone who didn't realize I had boundary issues with men. I thought I was just being friendly. But my husband helped me understand where to draw the line. In doing so, I have seen how much he values our relationship and wants to protect it.

I am a college graduate and have worked in my profession more than 25 years. I'm not a throwback to the days of male domination. I appreciate my husband's concern and wisdom. "Pulled" needs to find a way to put her marriage ahead of having fun with her co-workers. Jobs come and go: a great marriage can last a lifetime. —JO ANN IN GEORGIA

DEAR ABBY: Every company I have ever worked for invited employee spouses to attend almost all after-work social events. Only rarely, once or twice a year, they may have had an employee-only function. I suspect "Pulled in Two" enjoys the extra attention she is getting from her male co-workers. Otherwise, I bet she could invite her husband. —BEEN THERE IN AZTEC, N.M.

DEAR ABBY: It does seem that the husband is insecure, but there may be another explanation. Some of the most jealous spouses I have witnessed were the ones who caroused the most. Obviously, since they cannot be trusted, they project that unwarranted lack of trust onto their mate. —ILENE IN CORPUS CHRIST

DEAR ABBY: Any time social drinking is a part of a "work" event, the opportunity for inappropriate behavior presents itself. Many marriages have been ruined because of a "mistake" or "I didn't mean it to happen - it was the alcohol." If "Pulled" wants to go out drinking with male associates rather than go home to her husband, she is taking the road that leads away from a strong marriage. I faced that crossroad many times throughout my life and have never once regretted telling the ladies I couldn't join them because I already had a commitment at home. The result has been 30 years of wedded bliss with no "mistakes." —JOHN IN THE SUNSHINE STATE

Gabby's Reply:

Hi Bob and Everyone: These letters serve as reminders of how we cause the jealousy we say we don't want.

We begin with the premise that one can't resolve (complete) a problem they aren't willing to have created (intended). To disappear a jealousy problem you first must be willing to acknowledge that you have manipulated your partner into controlling you through fits of jealousy.

You produced this result using your highly developed, mostly non-verbal, leadership-communication skills. To lie, to say you didn't cause it, will cause the jealousy to persist; just because you are unaware of how you produced a result doesn't mean you didn't produce it.

Jealousy is about control. Jealousy cannot take place in a relationship in which both are experiencing love. Jealousy is a reaction to a relationship behavior that one partner wants to change in the other. Wanting to change someone is not love.

For certain you were unconscious at the very beginning of your relationship. You magnetically brilliantly attracted someone to mirror a behavior of yours that you now see produces friction. At first, jealousy was cute, a reassuring communication that supposedly proved they loved you. It was not love, it was abusive control born of insecurity. They not only didn't support you in doing what you were doing they made you wrong (to feel badly) about being who you were being. They wanted to change a behavior of yours (too gregarious, too seducing, too affectionate, too popular, too friendly acting, too naive).

BTW: The perfect partner is an automatic enroller; he/she enrolls everyone in support of the couple's purpose in life (Save the Whales, Rain-Forest, Global Warming, etc.). Such a couple have thousands of friends and supporters rather than just a few friends.

Let's assume that we all love everyone and that we have thousands of withholds (thoughts we deliver non-verbally) that serve as barriers to experiencing the love. The love is there, it's just hidden under layers of thoughts. When all significant withholds have been verbally communicated between two, what's left is the profound moving experience of love.

After reading this reply you'll be back at that very same fork in the road, after the very first incident of jealousy; the difference being, this time around you'll have a choice, to reward and empower jealousy or to nip it in the bud.

Of all the partners on the planet you alone chose someone who mirrors your addiction to controlling and to being controlled by submitting to his or her control. The way to control someone, to keep someone around, is to set it up for them to control you, to help you, to "guard" and protect you as a possession, to take care of you; you do this by not having a successful career before marrying, and then by surrendering to their desires and manipulations. This way of controlling another is not mutually satisfying. This begs the question, are you now willing to control your partner in a way that works for the both of you or are you going to continue controlling him/her in an unhealthy way that causes upset, anger, and the friction you say you don't want? If your answer to the above question is yes, continue reading.

There is a leadership-communication model, a way of relating and interacting, in which one intends for their partner, their other self, to be saying what they are saying. This way of relating precludes arguments. It presumes that you chose a brilliant conscious partner, a partner whose integrity and input is trusted and valued; therefore it would be ludicrous for you to argue with your other self, the one you respect, the one who perhaps can see something you can't. This leadership model is sometimes referred to as the Power-Source Relationship Model. It requires that both, up front, agree that one will start out as the source of the other's power. The partner who agrees to be the Source agrees to serve and support the person who agrees to be the Power (the powerful one, the one that unconscious friends assume to be the boss) in the relationship. The Source feeds power to their partner, thereby empowering him/her to excel, which includes causing both to experience love, health, and prosperity. Both must agree to honor all agreements and to give up making each other, and others, wrong. When they do find themselves making the other wrong, which at the very beginning is quite often, they must verbally acknowledge they did so. I.e. "I get that I made you wrong." "I get that it didn't feel good." "I get that I was being condescending." etc. Both must agree to communicate openly, honestly, and spontaneously with no significant thoughts withheld. The Source is responsible for their growth. I.e. Read this book, take this class, wear this shirt, buy this house, this car. The roles are interchangeable (even in the middle of a conversation) as long as the Power ultimately continues to surrender to the Source. To invalidate the Source's intuition would cause a downward spiral, at best mediocrity.

Some examples:

Power: Let's go climb Mt Everest.

Source:
 No. I don't like cold weather and I don't see myself as being capable of dragging you back down if you get hurt.

Power: Ok


Power: Let's start an Internet business.

Source: No: I'm no good with computers. If you die I'll be left with something I would not have chosen.

Power: Ok


Power: Let's start a day-care center.

Source: Yes. I'm willing to be responsible to make sure it succeeds.


Power: How about if I go to work and you manage the finances, house keeping, cooking, and the children.

Source: OK. I'll empower you to succeed and prosper from my positions as personal trainer, life coach, homemaker, and manager and we'll split your (our) income (Read, Who gets what in a divorce? ).

With this leadership model one is sometimes unaware at first as to why they would cause (intend) their partner to voice considerations about after-work partying and drinking with their employees. Further conversations would reveal the truth.

A person on-purpose in life and their relationship attends parties in support of the success (integrity) of the company.

Persistent/reoccurring upsets are disappeared through clearings (see The [free] Clearing Process for Couples).

In Bob's letter the wife reveals that during the marriage she has communicated in such a way as to cause her husband to have concerns about such activities; therefore it can be said that she (albeit unconsciously) set it up for him to advise her against such parties. The problem reveals that there are things (thoughts) that need to be communicated through to mutual satisfaction. The wife should ask herself, "Where would my partner get the remotest idea that such a party is not advisable?" Is this thought coming from my partner's mind (perhaps a book containing good ideas about how to save a marriage) or from a direct experience? Could it be a psychic intuition, or even a fear? If there is doubt or mistrust in the space I put it there. In this case, the wife has accumulated too many withholds, so many that they now serve as barriers to the here-to-fore experience of support and respect. She should know, with absolute certainty, that he has her best interests at heart. Just as a football quarterback will say, "Go around the left end" so too must all the players make that play work even if they can't see what the QB can see, or even if he is wrong. Goals are made when everyone is aligned with any play the QB calls. It's about trust and respect.

What's missing in your relationship is trust and respect.

For example: In a relationship, in which there is open, honest, and spontaneous communication, no significant thoughts withheld, there is mutual trust. Pulled's wife has given him reason to worry. He is not experiencing certainty. Worse yet, Pulled, unbeknownst to himself, using his leadership-communication skills, set up his wife to play the party game. Words of love and fidelity may have been exchanged but they have not been communicated. They haven't been gotten at the level of knowing.

Re: ". . . rightly guarding what belongs to a person." In any relationship in which one or both are considered a possession there are always significant thoughts being withheld from each other (always for "good" and "protective" reasons). It presumes that one is weaker and needs to be protected and that possibly, without constant control/protection, one might wander.

Re: "'Pulled' needs to find a way to put her marriage ahead of having fun with her co-workers." It appears to me that neither of them have found/created their purpose in life. Couples who are on-purpose are so busy they simply don't have time for such problems; neither would give off vibes that could remotely be mistaken as possibilities to roving letches.

Let's talk about jealousy:

Jealousy persists in a relationship in which both partners are withholding significant thoughts from the other. Put another way, a problem persists because there's a perpetration (a withhold, a deception) somewhere; both are withholding their thoughts of choice. Once the truth is told the problem disappears.

Jealousy persists when neither partner is willing to control the other.

For example, one partner willing to control the other might say:

Scenario #1 I'm the boss. Your job is to serve me. Your job is to find out what pleases me. I'll decide everything. If you choose to do something that upsets me that will be the end of our relationship. I will not tolerate thwarting or sabotage. In return for your service I will provide for you and protect you. Do you understand? Do agree to serve me?

Or,

Scenario #2 I don't like your jealousy. Either you agree to attend weekly sessions with a therapist until I'm satisfied that you've completed your addiction to jealousy or I will leave you. If you miss even one week of therapy I will take it to mean you no longer wish to be married to me and I will file for divorce. Is that clear? (actually, a conscious partner would have issued that ultimatum (usually non-verbally) while dating.

Obviously, few in America are willing to verbally communicate such conditions upfront. What we do notice is that most relationships have a modified version of Scenario #1. (benevolent dictator). Usually it's an implied non-verbal agreement. Most couples do sloppy irresponsible jobs of controlling each other. The wife will control the husband by gaining weight when he doesn't communicate supportively to her satisfaction. She further controls him with great sex, mediocre sex, or even withholding sex. The husband will control his wife by communicating condescendingly without acknowledging each and every verbal and non-verbal abuse; he will consciously choose to upset her by watching television when he knows there are chores that need to be done. In this way he manipulates her into not wanting sex and of course he blames her.

The above results are predictable in any relationship in which there is no agreement to communicate openly, honestly, and spontaneously, zero significant thoughts withheld. Each partner brought his/her leadership-communication skills into the relationship. How each handled the first incident of jealousy determined all that followed.

Jealousy begins with a withhold, usually an experience followed with a non-verbalized thought; most often this takes place on the very first date. I.e. I experience uncomfortableness or upset or even anger when I see the object of my affection interacting in a particular way with someone (it can be either male or female). The automatic reaction shows on my face. I say automatic because I have no choice; it's a computer-like program that was born from a childhood experience.

Because most everyone is addicted to withholding this first experience and the thoughts that accompany it, it (the thought) is usually stuffed (it's not shared verbally). It is however, always shared non-verbally, by pouting, thwarting, or some other non-verbal dramatization. This irresponsibly sets it up for the other to ask, "What's wrong?"

The experience usually triggers a thought, a judgment. The mind usually takes over and manufactures a drama. How both partners handle this first incident determines the future. In a relationship in which there is jealousy both partners are unconscious. Both are cause for this allegedly unwanted drama. Both stuffed their experience and thoughts during that very first incident. There are no exceptions to this entanglement phenomenon. By that I mean, a conscious date (male or female) can sense in a nano-second when the other person is experiencing an upset, when something is bothering them; whereas an unconscious person either cannot see the change, the non-verbal emanations that communicate upset, or they ignore it so as to control the situation, often so as to ensure sex later. They ignore it to survive, to get through the experience without causing further upset.

That, or they see their date's reaction but themselves have an experience, ironically of pleasure. Jealousy is gotten as a communication that confirms that their date likes them enough that an interaction with another bothers them.

If, after reading this, you realize now that you chose someone whom you don't respect, someone you know to be out-integrity, or someone who is easily manipulated and afraid of you, then the relationship is all over but the drama. It is doomed to mediocrity; to continue doing your imitation of communication will begin to cost you your aliveness, yours and their very health it will be premeditated abuse. Adults, as do children, pout, fail, thwart, or even get sick, to bring to anyone's attention that the love that once was is no longer—that he/she is not in-communication with anyone. The mind comes to believe that the relationship is hopeless, that it  simply can't be fixed—there's just too many things wrong with him/her—it also believes that it might be able to re-kindle an experience of love if it (the body-mind) gets sick. i.e.  Mo betta to have a health problem that might be able to be fixed, rather to keep trying to fix the unfixable relationship.

—With aloha, Gabby

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