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#102 Visit to grandparents' bores teenagers /
Time for a relationship-communication skills course |
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DEAR ABBY: Our parents make my sister and me go with them to visit our grandparents one Saturday a month. They live two hours away. We don't like having to waste our Saturday this way. My sister and I are 15 and 16, and we're old enough to stay home alone. When we are there, all we do is sit there bored while our parents and grandparents talk. Our grandparents show no interest in us, even though they tell our parents how much they "love" seeing us. Our parents say our grandparents are not in good health and may not be around much longer, so one Saturday a month isn't too much to ask. The other day Mom overheard us in our room talking about how much we hate having to go over there, and she was furious. She said we were selfish and care about no one but ourselves, and she had better not hear that kind of talk again. Please tell us what you think. —BORED TO DEATH IN SAN FRANCISCO DEAR BORED TO DEATH: Sometimes when people grow older, they lose the knack of communicating with younger people. While visiting your grandparents may seem like a pain in the neck now, when you're older you may be glad that you did. One way to bridge the generation gap would be for you and your sister to show some interest in them. Prepare a list of questions to ask them before you go to visit. You might be pleasantly surprised to find their answer a fascinating window on the past, and give you an insight about how your parents were raised. Please consider what I have said. It will make visiting your grandparents less of an ordeal—and you might even learn something of value. —ABBY Gabby’s Reply
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Gabby's Reply: Hi Boredetts: Great letter. It speaks to many families. Thanks for writing. Firstly: Your parents and your grandparents have brought this upon themselves. None have ever taken a relationship-communication skills course. They honestly believe, that they don't need it and that they already know how to communicate, which is true, except that the way they communicate (their communication model) doesn't work for you two. This condition simply couldn't exist if even one of them had attended a relationship-communication skills workshop (college sp-com courses don't count). Your grandparents did not teach your mother to communicate openly, honestly, and spontaneously and so she couldn't teach you. For example: None of them, when they are in a room together, know to acknowledged the obvious boredom on your faces (like an elephant in the room). This is called being unconscious. An awake adult can see when you are incomplete (whatever look you have on your face when you are upset, or bored, or when you're hiding a lie/deceit (a withhold), when you're not in communication with someone, when you are not radiant, happy and joking). The non-verbal communication is so obvious that it begs to be addressed before continuing any conversation. They would then stop their conversation and ask you, "What's up?" or "What's going on?" In a family that communicates openly, this would be your invitation to tell your truths. "I'm bored."*
They are all stuck in ignorance. They are totally and completely unaware
that both of you are bored and that you are being deceitful, that you are not
communicating openly and honestly with them. They all hide thoughts from
each other so they have lost their ability to see when you're hiding
thoughts. It's called being out-integrity. A lifetime of
withholding
thoughts detracts from ones aliveness, ones very "health" (read
Conversations in Support of Health).
BTW: When you tell the truth the problem disappears. Once you told them,
"I'm bored." you'd immediately be experiencing something else. Your mother made you wrong for telling the truth.
This was abusive. Worse
yet, she closed the topic for life (". . . better
not hear that kind of talk again") so now you both have to stuff those
thoughts. Making others wrong and shutting down communication is a
behavior you will definitely inherent from her so look for it with your
children, and remember what it felt like. An awake mother would have
said afterwards, perhaps later that day,
"I get that
I made you wrong. I know that that was abusive. I get that I haven't
included you in the conversations with your grandparents. I get that I
have not been a safe space for you to tell me the truth. I get that your
relationship with them has been boring for you. Keep letting me know
your thoughts about this. Do let them know you have been bored the next
time we visit them." Secondly: Your grandparents are not in communication with you. They are
unconscious. They've become stuck doing their
imitation of
communication. This is not your fault. They never studied how to get
into communication with teenage girls. In their arrogance they thought
these skills would come naturally. Nothing could be further from the
truth. Whereas parents read books about raising children there are very
few books or web sites for grandparents about how to support grandchildren
(read
Grandparenting—a communication-skills primer). Your
parents and grandparents are
unconscious; it's not you. There's nothing wrong with you.
All
(yes all) the
thoughts you have you're supposed to have. The way your grandparents
talked with each other when they were young is totally different than
how you and your sister talk with each other and with enlightened adults
(if you're fortunate enough to know any).
What would work is for you to locate the incident, it’s a specific
communication, an interaction, that was the turning point; before the
incident your grandparents were great and fun, after which they
weren’t—that incident needs to be shared with them, unless of course
neither of you recall ever liking them, in which case you need to share with
them your thoughts as to why you dislike them. Your
sister needs to do the same, only separately, because her first incident
might not be the same as yours.
You haven’t discovered the wonderfulness of grandparents. Most are so
much more tolerant and accepting than birth parents—they are less likely to
blow up over “little things.” You can talk about anything with them. You
can say anything to them and they can get it. Because of memory lapses
they laugh at all your old jokes, they'll watch reruns with you thinking
it's the first time they saw the movie, and feign shock and awe and
disapproval at the
trends/fads you share with them. They love to be conned into taking you
to the mall. Businesses persons pay lots of
money for consultants but you've got two that you're not tapping into for
free. You simply can’t be whole and complete until you're comfortable
interacting with old folks.
Re: "The
other day Mom overheard us in our room talking . . . " This is an
irresponsible communication; it's covert blame. Communicated responsibly
it would read, "I was so upset I manipulated my sister into complaining
loud enough with me to make sure Mom 'overheard' us."
BTW: Many teens are driven to 'speak even louder' —as in misbehave,
fail, do drugs, or get sick—any communication to bring to
someone's attention the
breakdown in communication within the family.
Remember, parents most always honestly believe they are in communication
with their teen. P.S. Part of what their oldness is about, what makes
them and their conversations boring, is that they have not tapped into
your abilities (your inquisitiveness, your humor) to keep them young.
They are dragging around a lifetime of verbally unacknowledged withholds
and perpetrations. If you want to liven things up ask each, "What was
the worst thing you ever did?" "What was the worst thing mom/dad ever
did?" "What was your proudest accomplishment?" "Did you two have sex
before you were married?" "Did you ever steal anything?" "Did either of
you cheat on each other?" "Was grandma your first girlfriend?" "When
were you two the happiest? —what happened to change things because you
sure don't look happy now?" (clue—it's
an incident). "Did you hide thoughts from your parents?"
"Why?" Or, "What topics should we not talk about in
front of you?" I guarantee you that if you ask a couple of these
questions they will be more energetic and alive afterwards than
they have been for years. It's your job to teach them how to communicate with you else they'll
go their graves as unconscious bores.
Check back from time to
time for
minor edits. (last edited 1/6/12)
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